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Steffen
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 Posted: Fri 11 Jan '08 18:32 Post subject: Apache 2.2.8 available |
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The Apache Lounge distribution of 2.2.8 is available.
For changes over the ASF download (msi), see the posts from Tom below.
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tdonovan
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| Posted: Sun 20 Jan '08 14:17 Post subject: |
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The Apache Lounge distribution of 2.2.8 contains two changes from the original Apache 2.2.8 source code:1. - The Windows mpm (source code file: server\mpm\winnt\mpm_winnt.c) is from the unreleased Apache version 2.2.7 (source code file here)
with the patch applied from Apache bug 43534 comment #3 (patch file here).
2. - APR was built with the symbol APR_DSO_BUILD defined in the source code file: srclib\apr\include\apr.hw. When an unchanged Apache 2.2.8 is run from the command line (vs. run as a Windows Service), Apache will not stop when the Apache window is closed.
Change 1. allows mod_perl to run correctly, as described in bug 43534, but it avoids the problems when Apache is run from the command-line.
Change 2. enables the use of the DBD database facilities in mod_dbd, mod_authn_dbd, etc. without needing to re-build Apache from source code.
Note that you still need to supply a DBD driver .dll for your database before you can use these modules. This change has no effect if mod_dbd is not used.
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turkerali
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| Posted: Tue 22 Jan '08 16:49 Post subject: |
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Hi Tom,
| tdonovan wrote: | | When an unchanged Apache 2.2.8 is run from the command line (vs. run as a Windows Service), Apache will not stop when the Apache window is closed. |
But comment #13 of bug 43534 states that this bug is fixed in 2.2.8. Seems like there is a conflict here, no?
Warm regards
AET |
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Mitron
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed 23 Jan '08 20:18 Post subject: |
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| tdonovan wrote: | Change 1. allows mod_perl to run correctly, as described in bug 43534, but it avoids the problems when Apache is run from the command-line.
Change 2. enables the use of the DBD database facilities in mod_dbd, mod_authn_dbd, etc. without needing to re-build Apache from source code.
Note that you still need to supply a DBD driver .dll for your database before you can use these modules. This change has no effect if mod_dbd is not used.
-tom- |
So let me get this straight, the ASF binary releases of Apache 2.2.8 are useless if your running mod_dbd and the fix for the command line issue didn't make release?
Just want to be sure before I decide which version to run. I don't think either of these issues will apply to any of my configurations, but it would be nice to know if I decide to use mod_dbd sometime in the future.
I don't have a problem running the lounge's releases if I have to, but I'd rather see a functional official release. Is ASF lacking in the number of Windows testers or something? |
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tdonovan
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| Posted: Thu 24 Jan '08 4:18 Post subject: |
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turkerali:
re: "Seems like there is a conflict here, no? "
Yes, bug 43534 states that this bug is closed - fixed. The original bug description said "mod_perl and FastCGI fails on Windows". Both mod_perl and FastCGI now work on Windows with the ASF fix. The ASF fix introduced a new problem with command-line. The notes in this post to the Apache-dev list may shed some light on their thinking, and why 2.2.8 shipped with the command-line problem.
Mitron:
re: "the ASF binary releases of Apache 2.2.8 are useless if your running mod_dbd"
Well, true - but maybe a bit overstated. DBD has not been available with any ASF Windows binary, including 2.2.8. The ASF Windows distribution requires re-compiling Apache from source code to enable DBD. The Apache Lounge distribution is compiled with DBD enabled starting with 2.2.8, although it does not include a DBD driver for any specific database. Is there any substantial interest in DBD? Do you think the Apache Lounge distribution should include a database driver? or perhaps an ODBC driver?
re: "Is ASF lacking in the number of Windows testers or something?"
There apparently are not a lot of Windows testers. To my knowledge, only Steffen and I have pointed out the problem with 2.2.8. The Apache developers have noted in the past that Windows is a weakly-supported platform.
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Mitron
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat 26 Jan '08 1:55 Post subject: |
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| tdonovan wrote: | Mitron:
re: "the ASF binary releases of Apache 2.2.8 are useless if your running mod_dbd"
Well, true - but maybe a bit overstated. DBD has not been available with any ASF Windows binary, including 2.2.8. The ASF Windows distribution requires re-compiling Apache from source code to enable DBD. The Apache Lounge distribution is compiled with DBD enabled starting with 2.2.8, although it does not include a DBD driver for any specific database. Is there any substantial interest in DBD? Do you think the Apache Lounge distribution should include a database driver? or perhaps an ODBC driver?
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I find it rather strange that they would advertise this as a feature and not include it in the binary release or document the need to recompile. I checked the docs on Apache, mod_dbd, release notes and Windows specific notes and recompiling doesn't seem to be mentioned or maybe I overlooked it?
I have an interest simply so I can protect the folders using a MySQL database instead of the .htpasswd files. Which of course would open up the need for a MySQL driver if it also needs to be compiled with Apache. If we simply need to download the correct driver, I would think just a link to the various drivers would suffice. BTW, if the driver does need to be compiled within Apache, then including the support would be rather useless.
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re: "Is ASF lacking in the number of Windows testers or something?"
There apparently are not a lot of Windows testers. To my knowledge, only Steffen and I have pointed out the problem with 2.2.8. The Apache developers have noted in the past that Windows is a weakly-supported platform.
-tom- |
That's too bad, but it does explain allot. If I didn't have so many projects in my lap I'd be willing to help. I just don't know how much help I would be not knowing much about C++. My programming experience is limited to BASIC, PHP, HTML, MySQL and Java. I do more with hardware than anything else.
I do appreciate you and Steffin keeping us up to date though. Without you guys I'd probably still be running Apache 2.0.x.  |
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tdonovan
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| Posted: Sat 26 Jan '08 19:52 Post subject: |
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Thanks Mitron.
Yes, DBD is a great Apache feature, but it seems to lack for enthusiasm both within the Apache developer community and in the Windows-Apache user community.
I posted a (longish) note in the third-party Modules forum about an ODBC driver and two modules I've been working on lately.
I have had good success with this driver and these two modules, but until Steffen enabled DBD in the Apache Lounge 2.2.8 download - DBD was just not available to Windows/Apache users who do not compile Apache from source code themselves. (thanks for that, Steffen!).
The command-line problem will probably remain in the ASF Windows binaries until more users notice it and voice enough objection to get it fixed. The Apache developers are right, I guess - it is certainly a less severe problem than mod_perl not working.
-tom- |
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