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Tonyz



Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov '06 0:44    Post subject: GUI tools for adminstering Apache Reply with quote

The people at www.apachie-gui.com/www.zecos.com make a GUI interface to configure Apache servers, specifically ApacheConf and Htpasswd Generator Professional.

Is this the easiest way to configure Apache?

Also, has anyone had experience of using ApacheConf and Htpasswd Generator? Just wondering, if it is a popular, safe and reliable way of doing things?

Would appreciate feedback.

Thanks and regards,

Tony
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Brian



Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 209
Location: Puyallup, WA USA

PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov '06 1:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been managing my servers all along using a program like Edit Pad Lite or Notepad++, I have never seen these GUI tools for Apache.

Personally, I would rather manage my server via text files.

Ideally, take a modular approach and use includes to build yor complet configuration file. I guess the way I see it, you will really need to understand what each of these settings do, and in fact often you have to manually edit the file(s) even with in these GUI tools.

It is faster in my estimation to make a backup of the specific configuration file then edit it and restart the server - rather than learn GUI, load a GUI, edit the file(s) in a GUI, save the files, restart the server.

If you work from a text editor, for Apache configuration settings as well as PHP and so on, then you will truly understand the settings, how they work, which makes you better at what you do.

A GUI is fine for IIs, but in my estimation, not for Apache - you loose the connection, the root understanding of how the server works, and how to best confugre your server.

...I took a log of liberties here and assumed that managing a server such as Apache via a GUI would not be as flexible, and that in fact it is not likely that any GUI could possibly keep up with the changes and settings that are available with the variety of modules that you may wish to use.

You will end up having to use a text editor at some point, I bet.
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Tonyz



Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov '06 5:20    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thanks, so editing via text files it is.
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Tonyz



Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov '06 22:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

A GUI is fine for IIs, but in my estimation, not for Apache - you loose the connection, the root understanding of how the server works, and how to best confugre your server. [/quote]

Just an observation. Mac OS X provides a GUI admin interface for Apache that ships with Mac OS X. Just wondering why Apple did that.
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Brian



Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 209
Location: Puyallup, WA USA

PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov '06 22:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonyz wrote:
Just an observation. Mac OS X provides a GUI admin interface for Apache that ships with Mac OS X. Just wondering why Apple did that.


My guess is because it is Apple, and they are ...

Apple does not provide the best model to emulate, in my own humble opinion.
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Organic Angel Alexiel



Joined: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 6
Location: TechnoCore

PostPosted: Sat 09 Dec '06 9:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian wrote:
Tonyz wrote:
Just an observation. Mac OS X provides a GUI admin interface for Apache that ships with Mac OS X. Just wondering why Apple did that.


My guess is because it is Apple, and they are ...

Apple does not provide the best model to emulate, in my own humble opinion.


Apple like pretty GUIs. If it looks good and the normal/average user is going to be inclined to use it, then it must be awesome. Pretty isn't always better. Usually the more 'USER' friendly, the less functionality and power it has. Though this is not always true.
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James Blond
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Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 7373
Location: Germany, Next to Hamburg

PostPosted: Sat 09 Dec '06 9:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

A goog GUI for Windows is http://www.blackdot.be/?inc=apache/monitor
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Jorge



Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 376
Location: Belgium

PostPosted: Sat 09 Dec '06 15:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh thats strange seeing someone post a link to your site haha.

A new version is in the making but progress is slow, I have littel free time between work and school.
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