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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon 25 Sep '06 2:16 Post subject: Firewall |
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I use McAfee, and I have to open port 80 and 21. And I open a hole in my security. What should I use, or how do I make McAfee allow Apache to serve?
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Jorge
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 376 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon 25 Sep '06 16:42 Post subject: Re: Firewall |
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sb.net wrote: | I use McAfee, and I have to open port 80 and 21. And I open a hole in my security. What should I use, or how do I make McAfee allow Apache to serve?
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If you also have McAfee Antivir you might need to add that aswel. By default my McAfee Ent 8.0i block all trafic on port 80, 21 and 25 |
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon 25 Sep '06 17:28 Post subject: |
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what do you mean? |
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Jorge
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 376 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon 25 Sep '06 21:19 Post subject: |
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Some virusscanner (usually corporate) block some basic ports aswel, check there to see if its bocking apache |
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon 25 Sep '06 21:59 Post subject: |
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no it is when i go to McAfee security center > persional firewall plus > options > system services, it lists common ports. if i check these apache works outside of my network and it opens a hole. if i uncheck these i can not get to it from the outside (it puts it on stealth).
I have McAfee virus scan. not anti-virus. |
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Jorge
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 376 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep '06 8:51 Post subject: |
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Ah you mean the security center tells you there is a hole with port 80 open?
Aslong as its your apache that is listening on there and y ou have secured apache you don't have to worry about that. |
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Steffen Moderator
Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 3096 Location: Hilversum, NL, EU
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep '06 18:42 Post subject: |
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Puzzling what your point is.
You only want to use Apache with localhost ? |
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep '06 19:02 Post subject: |
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no i am hosting sites at softwarebase.net. i am hosting it on my server. but it does not work outside of my network if mcafee puts the ports on stealth. |
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Steffen Moderator
Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 3096 Location: Hilversum, NL, EU
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep '06 19:31 Post subject: |
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I you want to serve you should open port 80 in your firewall/mcafee.
Still puzzling what you issue/problem is.
Last edited by Steffen on Tue 26 Sep '06 21:25; edited 1 time in total |
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep '06 21:06 Post subject: |
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Quote: | I you want to serve you should open port 80 in your firewall/mcafee. |
it is when i open it that it opens a hole. it works fine when it is open. |
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Steffen Moderator
Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 3096 Location: Hilversum, NL, EU
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep '06 21:11 Post subject: |
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You said "opens a hole" , please explain. Sure https://www.grc.com should say Open, otherwise you cannot serve. Port 80 should be open when you run a http server.
Or are you a little kidding here.
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep '06 21:16 Post subject: |
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well i do not want people to hack my sever. But if it has to be open then i will open it. |
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DeliriumServers
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 54 Location: H Town
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Posted: Wed 27 Sep '06 0:47 Post subject: |
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Jorge wrote: | Aslong as its your apache that is listening on there and you have secured apache you don't have to worry about that. |
like jorge said. if apache is running, it is filling this hole. your virus suite is dumb |
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed 27 Sep '06 2:13 Post subject: |
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ok, thanks. |
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Jorge
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 376 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed 27 Sep '06 9:12 Post subject: |
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Ok let me try and explain this the very simple (don't take this as offencive, it isn't ment to be so):
Browser <--> |FIREWALL| <--> Server
That wouldn't work sicne the firewall blocks it... look at it as putting a pipe to again the wall at one end and one at exact the same spot at the other end.
You can't expect water to run though it it would stop at the wall (aka firewall in your case).
Now you could drill a hole in the wall where the pipes connect. problem solved!
You might think then rats, bugs,... can get in through the hole?
Well yes... but not if the pipe is connected at the hole then there is no way for the rats etc to get in since the pipe is blocking access.
Hopefully this explains it. |
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sb.net
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 120 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed 27 Sep '06 14:24 Post subject: |
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Yes, I got that. But anyway thanks, that's a great explanation. |
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