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Reply to topic   Topic: No mod_mem_cache in 2.4, what gives?
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Kanashii



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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan '12 13:56    Post subject: No mod_mem_cache in 2.4, what gives? Reply with quote

Moderator edit:
Since this was getting off topic from Steffen's 2.4.0 release announcement, I split this off into it's own thread


I don't know why they remove mod_mem_cache

if you hand no hardware raid you are fucked
if you had no SSD you are fucked
etc etc
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan '12 15:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how it works or if it the same, but there is mod_socache_memcache. The documentation is not complete at all in this case.
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Kanashii



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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan '12 20:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try something like this on apache 2.2 but whose caching 2x gzip css and js files

Now i had:

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Encoding} gzip
RewriteRule .*?\.js$ $1.gjs [L]

AddType "text/javascript;charset=UTF-8" .gjs

<FilesMatch "\.gjs$">
Header set Content-Encoding gzip
SetEnv no-gzip 1
</FilesMatch>

gzip.exe -c -9 file.js > file.gjs

Maybe i try again
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Jan '12 21:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gzip? That is the same mod_deflate does. Do you use a subdomain for delivering js and css files?
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Kanashii



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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jan '12 16:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gzip? That is the same mod_deflate does

yep

But i make test

When user-agent is other that saved in cache then apache make again gzip. Just check mod_disc_cache directory by view in notepad cached file
.
You can check this in proces monitor.

When i use mod_mem_cache in process monitor is no request to disc


Do you use a subdomain for delivering js and css files?

no

eq
domain.com ->
reuqest to cdn.domain.com need another dns request
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan '12 11:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kanashii wrote:

You can check this in proces monitor.

When i use mod_mem_cache in process monitor is no request to disc


Yeah, that is not so good for the performance.

Kanashii wrote:

reuqest to cdn.domain.com need another dns request


That is true, but the client does this only 1 time. After that the DNS request in the in DNS cache of the client (ipconfig /displaydns). You can take only one subdomain like static.example.com
I tried that. Makes my site much faster.


Did you already try mod never expire?

---- edit ----
I think Steffen didn't compiled mod never expire yet for 2.4
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glsmith
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan '12 20:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a look at mod_never_expire to see if it would be 2.4 compatible, nothing jumps out that I know doesn't, however it's not really "never_expire," but more mod_expire_on_21-12-2014_13:33:33_GMT.

Code:
    /* XXXXXXX: change this when I turn 30. */
    apr_table_set(r->headers_out, "Expires", "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:33:33 GMT");


While looking up the max-age header I saw something interesting, mod_expires;

ExpiresActive On
ExpiresByType text/css "access plus 10 years"
ExpiresByType text/javascript "access plus 10 years"
____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Edit: By the way, how about the word "screwed" or something else instead of the F-bomb?. I do however understand your frustration.

It was planed to have something like mod_cache_socache to replace mom_mem_cache, it just never seemed to materialize.

One could also try building the 2.2 module for 2.4, unfortunately the cache system in 2.4 is different from 2.2. But, I do not see how it could not still be done, you just may not be able to mix & match use of the two different mod_cache's.

I've done just this, I'm just not sure how to know if it is working or not.
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glsmith
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan '12 1:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

mod_socache_* are just utility modules for other modules to hook into and use. A good example is one of them must be used for mod_ssl. Another similar modules is the slotmem ones, they have no use on their own but have hooks for other modules to utilize (proxy_balancer, heartmonitor, watchdog I can think of).

The key is to make a mem_cache module that utilizes any of the socache modules, since they are all mem based anyway as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan '12 9:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mod_disk_cache and mod_cache part is working, so I will assume (uh oh!) mem_cache is as well.
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Kanashii



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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan '12 23:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

More about pre-deflate

http://www.mrclay.org/2008/06/03/pre-encoding-vs-mod_deflate/

method requests/sec output size (bytes)
mod_deflate 187 16053
pre-encoding + type-map 470 15993
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb '12 12:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried that pre deflating. My rewrite rules is a bit different than yours.

Code:

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
   AddEncoding gzip .gz
   <FilesMatch "\.js\.gz$">
      AddType "text/javascript" .gz
   </FilesMatch>
   <FilesMatch "\.css\.gz$">
      AddType "text/css" .gz
   </FilesMatch>
   RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-encoding} gzip
   RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} \.(js|css)$
   RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME}.gz -f
   RewriteRule ^(.*)$ $1.gz [QSA,L]
</IfModule>


I have to run that on my windows box and the linux box to test that. Did you run tests on your own yet?
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb '12 15:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just found put that there is a new zlib version 1.2.6 which shall be faster as the author says ...
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Kanashii



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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb '12 19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

But should be there 2 files

file.js
file.gz

so

gzip.exe -c -9 file.js > file.gz

I had using this on my server but now is off-line and support try it repair for 4 hour
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb '12 0:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kanashii wrote:
But should be there 2 files


?? I don't get that!?
Sure there are two files. RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-encoding} gzip checks if the client can do gzip encoding.

Are we lost in translation?
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Kanashii



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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb '12 15:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Example:

/_e/s.css
/_e/s.gcss

Then run command:

gzip.exe -c -9 s.css > s.gcss

http.conf
Quote:

<Directory "%PATH%/_e/">

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Encoding} gzip
RewriteRule f.js$ f.gjs [L]
RewriteRule s.css$ s.gcss [L]


AddType "text/css;charset=UTF-8" .gcss
AddType "text/javascript;charset=UTF-8" .gjs

<FilesMatch "\.gjs$">
Header set Content-Encoding gzip
SetEnv no-gzip 1
</FilesMatch>

<FilesMatch "\.gcss$">
Header set Content-Encoding gzip
SetEnv no-gzip 1
</FilesMatch>

</Directory>


Sorry my server whose down for 8 hours and i had lot of work
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glsmith
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Feb '12 8:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kanashii,

Care to give a very pre-release test build of mod_cache_socache a try, this is the module that will replace mod_mem_cache, hopefully come 2.4.2. The source was posted on the dev list this afternoon.

There are modules for both x86 & x64 in the archive along with the manual page. If you care to give it a try, or anyone cares to give it a try;

NOTE: Link removed. This module is part of Apache 2.4.x since 2.4.4


Last edited by glsmith on Thu 10 Dec '15 19:43; edited 1 time in total
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar '12 21:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if Graham commited his patch he announced in his mail to trunk or 2.4 branch?
Quote:

[Patch] mod_cache_socache (to replace mod_mem_cache)
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Steffen
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar '12 22:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

This are the latest changes dealing with mod_cache :


Revision: 1299718
Author: jim
Date: maandag 12 maart 2012 16:45:03
Message:
Move away from DEFAULT_REL_RUNTIMEDIR and use ap_runtime_dir_relative()API
----
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/cache/mod_socache_dbm.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/cache/mod_socache_shmcb.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/generators/mod_cgid.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/mpm/prefork/prefork.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/util_mutex.c

Revision: 1209766
Author: sf
Date: zaterdag 3 december 2011 0:02:04
Message:
Add lots of unique tags to error log messages
...
...

And:


Revision: 1299718
Author: jim
Date: maandag 12 maart 2012 16:45:03
Message:
Move away from DEFAULT_REL_RUNTIMEDIR and use ap_runtime_dir_relative()
API
----
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/cache/mod_socache_dbm.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/cache/mod_socache_shmcb.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/generators/mod_cgid.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/mpm/prefork/prefork.c
Modified : /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/util_mutex.c
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glsmith
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar '12 1:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, my last look there was no mod_cache_socache.c file present in trunk and it must land there first. If you want, his email is dated Feb. 21, 2012. Reply with a +1 to it.
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